A Coffee with Rob & Debby Wiedeman

Join us for a coffee and chat with Rob and Debby Wiedeman. 

Their story began with a serendipitous meeting at a Safeway party in 1980, where Rob's bold move of handing Debby his business card sparked a connection. Fast forward to marriage in 1985, two wonderful daughters, and three grandchildren.

Debby carved a meaningful career path in mental health, progressing from a Child and Youth Care Councillor to a Mental Health Consultant at Alberta Health Services, even continuing her impact as a casual employee after retirement. Rob's professional life took many interesting turns, from the depths of commercial diving after attending the College of Oceaneering in California to the open road of the trucking industry and numerous entrepreneurial ventures. 

Beyond their careers, Rob and Debby have been deeply involved in their community. They actively participated in their community league, with Rob serving as President and Debby as Treasurer. Upon moving to Parkland County, Rob's commitment grew, leading to his service as a Councillor from 2001 to 2007 and as Mayor from 2007 to 2010. Today, he continues to serve as a Parkland County Councillor. 

Join us to hear more about their journey of love, diverse careers, and unwavering dedication to making a difference in their community. 

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Transcript

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Hi, everybody, and welcome to another edition of the ABA Coffee In The Park. My name is Cam Milliken, and I am here with my co-host extraordinaire, Jennifer Herrick, the Executive Director of the Acheson Business Association. Hi, Jennifer. Well, good morning, Cam. How are you this morning? Oh, man, I'm so good, except it's not morning. It's 12.04. It's four minutes past morning. Well you know what, but our listeners wouldn't have even known that.So why are you calling me out? I know, but you said, because you said good morning, I don't feel like it's afternoon already. Anyways. This is what happens all the time. Oh, I can't believe it. However, it's a great day out here and we're coming to you live from the Wall Coffee Roasters in the heart of beautiful downtown Acheson. That's right. So we are actually in a working living coughing shop, coffee, not coughing. Coffee. No, coffee. Coffee shop. So if you hear machines whirring, people talking, kids screaming, no kids today. I don't see any kids. But it could happen. It's because we're live. In the coffee shop. In the coffee shop. That's right. Tell us about some very important people. We want to thank our gold corporate sponsors, which include the Myshak Group of Companies, Genics, Parkland County, and Bow Valley Credit Union. That's right. Without them, we would not be able to do what we are doing. So thank you very much for your support. And thank you to all our listeners. Over 7,000 listeners, Cam. 7,000. 7,000 people. And growing! That's half of Roger's Arena. Isn't that amazing? Oh, it's incredible. We'll be filling Roger's Arena soon. We'll be on speaking tour. When we go on tour. Anyway, thank you for wherever you're listening, whether it's Vietnam, because we have, no wait, do we have listeners in Vietnam? Yes. We do? We do. Oh, unbelievable. Okay, awesome. Anyway, that's really great. So wherever you're listening today, we hope your day is going great. And we have some very exciting guests today. We sure do. Do you want to tell us about them? I'm going to tell you about them right now. Ready? Ready. Our guests today are Rob and Debby Wiedeman. Yes. Welcome. Welcome. Hello. Good morning or afternoon. Good afternoon. It's afternoon.

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05 now, Rob. Anyways, okay, now we got that straight. Glad to have you guys on the podcast. Listen, your husband and wife? Yeah. You should just say that right off the top, right? Yes. Yes. Okay. So the question we asked every guest right at the beginning, we'll start with Debby and then we'll go to Rob. Where did you come from? I know that's a... This is why I do this question. The same place. Ask the question. The same place you came from. So, Debby, where were you born? Yes, where were you born? And where did you grow up? Yeah. I grew up in Edmonton, in the Hood, in Northeast Edmonton. The Hood. The Hood, I call it. In Northeast. Okay. Where in the Hood, Debby? Yeah. When Londonderry Mall. Londonderry Mall? Yeah. Northside. Northside. What high school did you go to? I went to M.E. LaZerte M.E. LaZerte. What was your mascot? The M.E. LaZerte. Voyagers. Oh, the Voyagers. Haven't we heard this again. Somebody the other day we interviewed went to M.E. LaZerte. Yes. I don't know where that came from in my brain, but that's what it is. I look at you like paddling. Okay. Cool. So yeah, you grew up in Northeast Edmonton, the Hood. Yeah. And in those days, that was the Hood, wasn't it? It was, and then it just changed remarkably. There was, Londonderry was pretty much the end of the North side of Edmonton. Now, when you look at it now, you know, 40 years later, it's like, yeah. It's not even close anymore. You got lots to go to Edmonton after that. Correct. Well, that's pretty cool. Okay, Rob? You noticed that Debby tried to answer for me earlier. I don't know if you noticed that. So I will give you my own opinion. Your own opinion? Welcome to the husband and wife show. That's right. The husband and wife show. I don't normally get to speak, so... Oh, here we go. Okay. Where were you born? Okay. I was born in Edmonton. While born, we were living in St. Albert, and I was born in Edmonton. And then my dad moved to Edmonton with us in about, probably when I was about five years old. Okay. But you were from St. Albert. That's right. In those days, St. Albert was a long ways out. Oh, yeah, it was. And I think that's why he moved into Edmonton. Too far a drive. Yeah, that's right. Okay. What part of Edmonton? So we're from Rosslyn, which is by the north, kind of central, by Northgate, that type area, by the tracks, so closer to Calder. Oh, okay. Yeah. And what high school did you go to? Queen E. Queen E? Yeah. And the Queen E mascot? Well, I didn't spend a lot of time there, but I do remember, I think it was the Knights, I think it was. I think it was. Like I said, I didn't spend much time there. Yeah, okay. The Knight. I think it was. Rob. I don't... Yeah, I went to Ross Shep. Oh, okay. We were rivals. I'm sorry. No, yeah, thank you. We were the Thunderbirds. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. All right. So after high school, Debby, what did you do? What did you want to do? I always have wanted to be a social worker, but before I even got out of high school, I met Rob. Oh, okay. Rival schools. That's right. Tell us this story. How did you guys meet? How did you meet then? Well, you say it. So I had a bunch of friends who had worked at Safeway, and Rob also had friends who worked at Safeway, and there was a big Safeway party. So my girlfriend, yeah. My girlfriend invited me to the Safeway party, and Rob's buddy invited him to the Safeway party. And that was in January or December, January of 1984, and we've been together ever since. Wait, sparks flew? Yeah. Was it Love At First Sight, Debby? What did you see Rob across the room? I'm going to ask Rob. Yes, it was. I think I've got it all written out in my hand here. No, it was. It truly was. Was the Safeway party a rockin party? Well, at that time, we thought it was. It was a rockin thing. I still remember it clearly because it was a winter night. My girlfriend drove us home. She packed us about six of us in the smallest car I've ever been in, and we twirled around on the 137th Avenue because she skidded out around and around, old Jerry, and so we made it home. But for Rob and I, it was... But you saw each other. Yeah, Rob handed me a business... And Rob, did you feel the same way? You saw Debby and that was like it? Well, I wasn't really over enthused with her at the start, but it took a while. Folks, sometimes I wish we were videoing this because that's the best part. Okay. Okay. Rob handed me a business card that night. Gave you a business card? At 17. Yeah. It took a while for her to grow on me. But anyway, we hit it off pretty good. Yeah. And of course, 40 years. Okay. But wait, Debby, you have to tell us about the first date. Yeah. Tell us about your first date. Well, okay. So Rob gives me the business card. So in two weeks, he says- Did you have to contact him? Well, I did. Because he said in two weeks, because he was trucking at the time. Rob is a couple of years older than me, and he was trucking up in Fox Creek, I believe. And he said, I'll be home in two weeks. So I actually put it on my calendar and two weeks went by. And I thought Rob would be home by about 6 o'clock at night. So at that time, there was no cell phones or anything. Listen kids, this is when you had to pick up the phone. Any kids listening, there was a time when there were no cell phones. Yeah, so I picked up the phone, and very nervously, actually, because a girl didn't call a boy. Oh, that wasn't the norm. And his dad, Mr. Wiedeman, picked up the phone and I was very nervous. And he says, no, Rob's not home. So he says, I'll give him the message. And I says, okay. So then three hours go by. But I thought, well, maybe he's really kind of older, and he forgot or he lost the number. And I really, I, and I really- Not me, my dad. My dad. But I really, I think there was a real spark. So I said to Rob, or I said to his, so I reluctantly phoned his dad again. And his dad picked up the phone and I says, Hello, Mr. Wiedeman, this is Debby. He says, I know you called a few hours ago. And I said, Is Rob home? He says, No, but I do remember. I will give him your message and this phone number. So, so Rob didn't call me until 10 o'clock, because that's when he got home that night. And so nothing was open. Like we didn't, you know, like McDonald's just barely open. And so I said, do you want to? So I says, well, what are we going to do? So Rob came and he answered, he says, I'll be there. So Rob came with his leather jacket, long hair, comes in and I says, yeah, just like that. And I says, well, where are we going? And he says, well, take you to a drive-in. And I was like, and we never had a car growing up. So when we were on the hood, the north side, and so Rob just knew there was a drive-in on the Calgary trail somewhere. I think so. Over to Calgary trail? Yeah, and then all I saw was Calgary. So I thought he was kidnapping me. So I was so worried. I was like so scared. I was like, I like this guy, but he's kidnapping me to Calgary. And at that time, going from the north side to the, like, yeah, and we never even took the bus to the south side. So I was like, oh my God, this fella. So then I actually, you know, it was almost, like I wanted to scratch his name in my skin, if I was going to be chopped up or something. I know. We shouldn't laugh, but that's kind of funny. But, and then Rob, we went to the drive-in and it was like, oh, that was another story. Cause it was fricking, I didn't know about that, but it was Body Heat. So as soon as we walked, I drove in, there was like this naked girl in the shower. And I was like, oh my God. The movie. The movie. What's going on here? And it was like, I was so embarrassed. We didn't even know. And it was like, so then we got home and then actually Rob had to go get his truck cause he drove me home in his big, big truck about three in the morning and he had to go back to work. Three in the morning. So that's what he did. He came for my phone call that night. So. There you go. Wow. And what did your dad think? Because if he brings you home at three in the morning, like is that- I had no dad at that time. Okay. So that was okay to bring you home at three in the morning? No, it wasn't. No, okay. So did you get in trouble? Oh yeah. From who? I think it was her mom later. I don't know. Rob, would you concur that this is how it went? This is how the story went? This is everything Debby said is true? Pretty well, yeah. Her mom's never talked to me since. Pretty much. Oh my goodness. Okay. All right. So first date and then what happened? Like it worked obviously. Yeah. Well, if you pull up with a truck in a sleeper and you go to the drive-in. Heading to Calgary. Yeah. There you go. That date went pretty good. Wow. And then, so how long was it until you got married? So go ahead, Rob. Well, 1980. Go ahead, Rob. 1985. Yeah, that's right. He just looked at his hand. He's got cheat notes. Yeah. So we met in 1980-81. I could tell you the Kenworth year, but I don't remember that. It was the 76th Kenworth. The year of the truck. Okay. So how long? You got married from the first date. How long was that? I think we met in 1980. You got married in 85. Yep. So five years. Yeah. So in between that, I went to school, and I became a Child and Youth Care Counsellor. And then, so that 1985 and that May, the first week, I finished all my finals, planned a wedding, got married, had a birthday and started a career in two weeks. In two weeks. Wow. It was a little nutty. So I said, Rob, do you realize I'm just finishing college? He goes, yeah, it's all good. And you know what? I'll be honest with you guys. That should have been a little kind of a little placard. This is how things are going to go for the next fourty years. This is your life. This is my future. And it's been like that. And we've been, our anniversary is coming up. How many years? 40. Yeah. Wow. 40 years. In a couple of weeks. Congrats. That's really awesome. So you were a youth and child care worker. I started there, but then I ended up furthering always my education. So furthering to my bachelor in social work and then a master's in social work. Okay. And you've been doing that for how long? It had been, I'm still casual now. I retired almost three years ago, this June 30th, but I stayed on as casual. So when I was a mental health consultant for Alberta Health Services for many, many years in different areas. So I've been, I've done lots of different things and seen sort of the pendulum of support of care and the ideologies changing on how to support people, and good and bad, and bad, and now back to bad. Yeah, no, no, no, that's my daughter's in that field, I understand. Yeah, and supporting Rob. Rob has, we talk about it often, but Rob has had a definitely, you need like a week to sit down and talk about what he's been doing. So Rob, in the Cole's Notes version, tell us about what Rob does or did or all the journey. I don't know where to start. You were trucking. Yeah. And then, so I realized that I wasn't going to go far in that business. It was an interesting business, gave me a very good income, went from there into management. But before that, I went to school down in California as a commercial diver. Really? Yeah. So like in the water? Yeah. Yeah. So we went to, it was a College of Oceaneering. They called it at the time in Wilmington, California, which is next to Long Beach. And at that time, they were offering scholarships and student loans through the province, through Alberta. So of course, anybody my age wants to go to California and live there. So I did. But I'm thinking diving. Yeah. And you're from Alberta. Yeah. So I was. There's no oceans here. Like, what spurred that on? Well, I had scuba dived and snorkeled all my life right from about six or seven years old. My dad is really into the swimming and water sports. We had a cabin at Wabamun. So we were there all the time. We were in BC on summer holidays. So my dad encouraged it. He bought a boat. We always had a kayak, and then we graduated to canoe, and then we graduated to motorboat. So we were always in that. And so anyway, he encouraged it. And I got my scuba certificate or qualifications when I was 14. And at that time you had to be 16. So I had to get my parents to sign off. And it was a big deal. So I got that. And then I went on from there. Okay. And you went down south. Yeah. Became a diver. Commercial diver. Yeah. Didn't work at it because I came back up here, and then Deb and I had been already... Came home. No Ocean. Yeah. I had to find a job. Yeah. Indeed. No listings on Indeed. No. No. Yeah. Okay. I could have went to work down there and worked out of there, but I just... I had Deb up here and wanted to be up here with her. So what did you do? Oh, wasn't that nice? I'll stress that. So I went from there, did some trucking. We actually had a liquidating store, one of the first ones around. Yeah, I don't think I even told you that before. No, no, we had no idea. Yeah. So June the 9th, we opened it up. Oh, you remember that? June the 9th. So what did you liquidate? Well, we were one of the... We were part of a 34-store buying group. And so the Midland Liquidating Corporation bought, and then we worked with this group to buy. And we started three stores in Edmonton. Two of my friends started and one I had. And then so we bought tools and things like that, and then sold them again. And we bought some used stuff, not much. And yeah, so that was what we had. We shut that down. At that time, it was still probably in its infancy. It wasn't ready yet. They weren't ready. But we did okay, and then we shut it down. Our joke was, once you got it out the store, the warranty was up. I love it. Yeah. Okay. So liquidation is out. What's next? Went into selling real estate. So worked with Canada Trust Realtor for a few years. And then a friend of mine was an agent for me after that for about six or seven years. Right. Right. Went to work for Greyhound. I drove a bus. You were a driver? You were a Greyhound bus driver? You were? Yeah. You never told us this before. No, I guess. I forgot. That's, too many things. Where did you drive? We didn't have, because we're on what's called the spare board. So you worked there for a while, build your seniority up. I didn't stay there long enough. So I was there for the skiing. So I got to go on the ski trips. So I took a lot of ski trips. Just to let you guys know, Rob was really young doing this still. Oh, what? You were young. You were young? Yeah. Okay. So let's rewind. How old were you when you got married? I had just turned 22 and Rob was still 23 going on 24. So I think I got on Greyhound when I was 24. All right. Because it takes a while. So we stayed there for about four years. And you work your way up. Because it's hard to work your way up there. And so anyway, wasn't getting a lot of, because you get laid off every year. So then in between, I was selling real estate. Yeah, that was the reason. Then after that, got into some trucking management. So I managed a truck training school, oil field trucking company.This is great, Rob's done everything! And then, so my friend, he came up with a wacky idea that we're going to buy out a landscaping company. So we bought them out. And we started a landscaping business. And so we didn't know what we were doing, but we did it. Yeah, we got to actually, we got to... We didn't know what we were doing. We ran three crews for quite a while. And yeah, we were doing really well. That's pretty good for not knowing what you're doing. That's pretty awesome. Yeah. Okay. And then we, from there, we branched out and we got into a whole bunch of other things. And so we called it Complex Contracting. It was so complex we didn't know. We actually had to put an ad in the paper to try and get some landscaping business. And we didn't have a name for our company. So we had to come up with one quick and it was called Complex. Oh, okay. Complex, okay. So we ran that for a few years and kept landscaping, got into some construction, and then we got into project management, and then we got into driving kids around. So we- And the movie industry? You better explain that, driving kids around? Oh, okay. Well, yeah. What is that like driving kids around? So Deb, being a social worker, had the inside track here. So he got a contract with Children's Services, a big one, with 55 drivers. And yeah, so we went from three employees to 55 virtually overnight and also built a house and moved in and started the business. And the restaurant. Well, that was later. We didn't know about a restaurant? What restaurant? No, at one time, we overlapped with about 110 employees. Yeah, we had over 120 employees at one time. Okay. So wait, what restaurant? Tell me about the- Tell us about the restaurant. So we were going to build a restaurant and then we got- then I think the client backed out, if I remember the story right. So we ended up- my partner had been in the restaurant industry before, so he said, well, let's just take it over. So we built it, we operated it, and then stupid enough, we bought another one. And sold them both. Yeah, and then we sold them both. So we had 75 people in there, roughly. And then- I don't know what to even say. And then one day Rob comes home and says, I think I'm going to run for councillor. And then it was- Oh, yeah, I think you're jumping ahead, but anyway. But that was after around the restaurant time. Diver, truck driver, landscaper, construction, restauranteur. Big, and big projects. Well, between that I went and taught at NAIT for a year, year and a bit. And Greyhound driver. And now NAIT teacher. Crane and hoisting, I taught. Oh my goodness. I believe. Oh, yeah. Debby, how do you like- Remember I told you- Remember I said, we're getting married, but Rob, you know, I got the schedule of finals. Oh, you'll do it. It's all good. And you know what? Life has been like that with Rob. I just said that to Rob last night. You have done anything and everything, and I've supported him always. Always supported him. Wow. It's incredible. And how many children do you have? We have two beautiful daughters. Two beautiful daughters. So, Lindsay, who is a high school teacher in Spruce Grove, and she gave us two beautiful grandkids. So we are Papa and Nana. So Brooks is five, Kadia is three. So can I tell a little thing about Kadia? Yeah. Well, I know where this is going. Well, you know, your listeners will love this. Kadia is going to take the world like her mom does, and Lindsay is married to our wonderful son-in-law, Matt. But we took the kids last week on a road trip. So we had a five-year-old and a three-year-old in the back seat for a week. Where did you go? We have a place also in Sycamus, right? In BC. So we took them during spring break to give Lindsay a break, and her husband sometimes works out of town. So we're just sitting there in the living room, Rob and I and Brooks, and Kadia is going to the bathroom, and she just yells as loud as Kadia can, whoo, peed on the toilet seat! And so I'm glad Rob didn't say anything, but Brooks said it was me. And so Kadia just yells in her best three-year-old voice, she's just three, well, Brooks, remember to shake it. This has been the age-old issue with men and women since the beginning of time. Who, did you lift the seat? So yeah, and then our other daughter is a sergeant as a peace officer, Emily, in Spruce Grove, and she has a beautiful son, Jameson, who's four years old. And yeah, so we have a 5-4-3. Teacher and a Peace officer. Sergeant. Three grand children. It's unbelievable. Okay, so, but we left off. We left off with you selling the restaurant, and then Debby chimed in, jumped in, and said, You're a councillor. Tell us about that. Yes, why did you decide to go in politics? Like not councillor sitting down counselling people. No. City councillor. But it happens. Municipal County councillor. We council people in the coffee shop too. Yeah, that's right. Which we're doing right now. Each other, yeah. We just sit here. Anyway. I'm not sure why I did it. We got involved first as community league members, and I walked in as the president of the, or got on as president of the Londonderry Community League of the City. And then we, that was kind of our first opening to kind of politics. I got to just tell you this. Okay, so Rob puts on his high school suit. We've been married for a year. Wasn't that old? Yeah, it was. No, no, when we were in London Area, we'd only been married for a year or two. And Rob, I said, Rob, what are you wearing? Because it was his school from, his suit from high school. And I says, he says, well, I'm going to the Community League meeting. I was like, Rob, really? So Rob comes back three hours later. And he says, so Deb, I says, yes. I said, how did it go? He goes, well, I'm the president. I was like, are you kidding me? He goes, and you're the treasurer. I said, I wasn't even there, Rob. And I was like, I was so like, he goes. It was the suit.Thats right, yeah. So we pretty much started to give back to the community almost our whole married life. Yeah, we recognized it was important and we're younger, young family and we knew like we had our oldest daughter then. Yeah. So we knew it was important. So you went from community league president to the next. Yeah, when we moved out here. You ran for council. Yeah, in 2001, I ran and got on luckily. And the old councilor was there, he was retiring anyway. And we had a few people, I think, run against me. But anyway, got on and got on again. And then I ran for mayor in 2007. Right. And you were mayor? Yeah, from 7 to 10. This is going to be quite the story when you're prime minister. No, it started in a community league in Londenderry. Yeah. Yeah, this is going to be... No, I'm too old for that now to go to prime minister. So you were councilor and mayor of Parkland County. That's right. Wow. Yeah. How long were you mayor? About three years. Okay. Yeah. And so then you didn't run for mayor again. Well, I ran and got defeated. And then so we had our business at the time, so I was still running that. My partner decided he wanted to go on to something else, so he did, and I kept part of the business. So I had a contract called Bright Nights at Hawrelak Park. So if you remember that one, that was the biggest Christmas light show in North America. And then built Kessel Creek. Oh, yeah, that's nice. The guy has done everything. Okay, so I kept that for quite a few years. Sold it. It was Edmonton Chamber of Commerce that owned it. They were really good to work for. Right. Very good friends from that, and we still see them all the time, and they were great. So we went on from that. They wanted, we mutually agreed that we should sell it. It was getting old. We sold it to the General Hospital downtown, and I put it up there for a couple of years, and then sold it for them again, and that was the end of it. In about 2016, something like that. So yeah, it worked out good. And then you ran again? Ran again in 2021. Yeah. And you've been on council since 2021 again. So it was a long break. Wow. Debby. Yes? It must just be a whirlwind. It is a whirlwind, but it has been fun. And to add things, as we sat down and kind of, you know, Rob's hair is even falling out more because we're renovating our house on the outside. It's not going good. It's going well. Do you want to talk about that? No. Rob, do you want to talk about that? No. Deb might, but I don't want to. Yeah, it's going to go well. Listen, for any of our listeners, if you have any advice for Rob or Deb on renovations, just e-mail us and we'll pass it along. Because this can be this, yeah, it is. Well, we live out at the lake and it's been 30 years, our house, 30. So it's just, it's been, in my opinion, time. That's exact. You know what? It is. We did the inside several years ago, so and we've kept it up, so now it's the outside. Yes. Oh, sometimes I wish this was on camera, because this is priceless. No, it's good it's not. So 30 minutes has like flew, just fly by. You guys are, I'm just going to say that you guys are amazing. And Debby, we haven't even talked about all the work you've done, which is absolutely amazing. Maybe that's another podcast. Maybe we talked a lot about mental health. I would love to come up. So maybe that's a podcast we do for sure. Rob's kind of hoarded it with 50 million jobs he's had. I love it. It's just the best. But Debby, you've done an incredible thing as well. And we will do another podcast with you just to be able to talk. We'll leave Rob, yeah, on mental health. Yeah, that's more important. Rob can be home decorating. And I would be happy because in the 40 years of working in this field, I've definitely seen where the pendulum has come and gone and stuff, but the importance of really sort of providing hope. It's a great conversation. And I'd be really happy to have it. We're running out of time. Okay, final question. And Debby, I'll start with you and then I'll ask Rob. So, Debby, what is the best piece of advice you've been given either personally or professionally that you carry with you to this day? Oh, you get a moment to think about it. Can you go to Rob? Let me think about this for a second. Can you go to Debby? Probably, I've had lots of advice and people try to tell you advice constantly. Probably... Well, there's been lots, so I'll pick one. Probably don't get too full of yourself. Make sure that you listen to people and, you know, look at all the different ideas and take them into perspective. And, you know, don't think that one person doesn't know. You know, I think that's probably the number one thing. That's great. That's fantastic. That's excellent. Okay, I just needed that moment. You should have seen her. She just lit up. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know what? Is that we both have dear friends of the Spratts, but Priscilla Spratt, when we moved out to the lake and I was getting into this role of social work and counselling people and so forth, and she just kind of really... Like his auntie Susan gave me lots of advice and his dad, but this one has always kind of stayed with me, is with Priscilla Spratt. She said, you know, there's things in life when you put things in order, this order, the rest falls into place. And so, you know, having your faith and putting your marriage and then your children and then your community and then your work. So if you put your work before your husband or your husband or your children before your husband, she says things get kind of a little kind of crazy. Now, maybe at points in our life that's happened, but it always has come back to to this. And that kind of has set me on the path. Yeah, fabulous. Well, you guys, it has been a blast. We love you guys. We do. And we think you're great. And you've got such a great story. And we only heard, I feel like we heard just like this little bit of an idea. And so, Rob, I, you know, I don't know what the future holds. I hope it's, you know, well, you know what I hope. So, you know, you do a great job. You really do. And I mean that sincerely. We don't have a lot of politicians. You're actually only the second one. I think Karen Principe, City Councilor for Edmonton, and you. And I just, what's that? Alan. No, we never had Alan. No, I thought he was on here. Oh, now we're gonna have to have Alan. Oh Man! He better get out here. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, you do a great job. I appreciate what you do. I really do. Thank you. Because, you know, politics is hard. It is. And it's hard on the family, Debby. And I know that sometimes it's not always easy. So we appreciate your service both of you. Yeah. Thank you, Debby, for what you've done. Well, we're gonna go at it one more time. Yeah. Oh, okay. She just said, you're gonna run? I'm running again in 2025. Yeah. So one more term. And I hope, you know, we got lots to accomplish in Division 5, and there's a lot of things happening. So I want to see that through. And Parkland is a great place. Yeah, it is. It is a great county. And, you know, obviously, down in beautiful downtown, we think it's great. And we're glad that you're at the helm of a lot of this. Good. Thank you. So thank you guys very much. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. I can't stop laughing. What a hoot those two are! What a couple. Those two are. You know, there's that term power couple. They are a power couple in so many ways. Unbeliveable. You know what? I love when we have the husband and wife dynamic on the show. I agree. It's fabulous. It really is. And these two are amazing. And they're just amazing. They're both great people. They are. And I really appreciate both of them. Yeah, me too. And they become good friends. But their story is amazing. 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