Coffee in the Park Year End Review

Join us for a coffee and chat with Jennifer and Cam as they delve into the exciting world of podcasting in 2024. They will take you back to the origins of the ABA Coffee in the Park Podcast and how it all began. From there, they will explore its journey, discussing its worldwide spread and the impact it has had on listeners around the globe.

During this conversation, Jennifer and Cam will also take the time to recap the incredible guests who have graced the podcast. These guests have shared their remarkable stories, captivating audiences and leaving a lasting impression.

Furthermore, they will acknowledge and express gratitude for the phenomenal support the podcast has received throughout the year. The unwavering support from listeners like you has played a pivotal role in the success of the podcast.

So, grab a cup of coffee, settle in, and join us for this engaging conversation. We sincerely appreciate your continued listenership and support throughout this year. Thank you for being a part of the ABA Coffee in the Park Podcast journey!

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Well, hello, everybody, and welcome to another edition, a special edition of the ABA Coffee in the Park. My name is Cam Milliken, and I'm here with my co-host extraordinaire, Jennifer Herrick, the Executive Director of the Acheson Business Association. Hi, Jennifer. Well, hello, Cam. I am excited. Do you know why? Because... Tell me. We are doing a year-end review. Year-end review today. Of the ABA Coffee in the Park Podcast. That's right. So that is amazing. Let's just give a little bit of background. But before we do that, we want to let everybody know that we are coming to you from the Wall Coffee Roaster in the heart of beautiful downtown Acheson. That's right. So if you hear some coffee noises in the background or people talking, it's because, yeah, there's all kinds of stuff going on in here today. And Jennifer, we want to say thank you to some people. We sure do. We want to thank our gold corporate sponsors, which include the MyShak Group of Companies, Genics and Parkland County. Thank you to all of these businesses for what you've done for the ABA in 2024. Yeah, without you, we would not be able to do this. So thank you very much. So let's get back to our show today and let's start with, well, let's Jennifer, let's start with the beginning. Let's start with the beginning. No, because we've told this story a few times, but let's start from the beginning. So we've done 26, 26 shows. Yes. Yeah. But some people don't know how this all got started. No, they don't. How did, how did, do you want to tell that story? You know, I don't even, I don't even recall the date when this, this all started. And this is the, the pre, pre podcast. This is before, we weren't even recording. No, no. If I recall correctly, and this was when we were in our old offices, on the other side, that I walked into your office one day and you had a microphone sitting there. One of these mics. One of the mics that we're using right now. And I looked at you and I thought, I wonder what he's doing. And I think actually that day I left, but then the next day it was still there. And so I said to you, well, what are you doing? And you said, oh, we're going to do a podcast. I'm like, you're going to do a podcast? No. And you said, no, we're going to do a podcast. We're going to do a podcast. That's right. And if I recall, I looked at you. Yeah. I called you an idiot. You did. You said, you're an idiot. That's what you said. Like my exact words. Those were your exact words. You're an idiot. Yeah. And I walked out. And you walked out. I wasn't offended or anything like that. I mean, I didn't take that personally, really. No. For a while. But yeah, so yeah. And so yeah, then we convinced you. And two microphones showed up. Yeah, two microphones showed up. And I wore you down. And eventually I'm like, well, why not? I think you gave in because you were just tired of me. I think that was it. Yeah. And you weren't sure. But then we started. We did it. We did. We did the first one. But no, we actually, let's go back, because we talked about what we wanted it to be. That's right. Yeah. So, and I think this stemmed from you and I meeting so many great people in and around Acheson. Yeah. And when we would sit down with them, we would hear some amazing stories. Yes. They had amazing stories. They did. And somehow we got to know a lot of those stories just by conversations with those people. In fact, over coffee here at the Wall Coffee Roasters. Many, many meetings here with people, and they start telling you their story. And so you and I came to the conclusion that the story behind the story. Right. Because everybody, whether they think so or not, and we have had lots of people say, I don't have a story, everybody has a story. And then we start talking to them, and before you know it, they're telling you their story, and you're like, wow, that's a fantastic story. So we batted this around for a bit, and then we thought, well, where are we going to do this podcast? And because these stories always seem to come out at the Wall Coffee Roasters, we thought, why not coffee and conversation? Right. So we went to Michael. We did. And we said, hey, can we, in this corner, where we are right here, is it okay if we record our podcast? And he really didn't. He said, yeah, sure, go ahead and do it. I don't think he really thought much of it. But yeah, and so we just started. We started. Yeah. And here we are 26 episodes later. 26 episodes later. Amazing. I know. It's incredible. And we've had some fantastic guests. We're going to talk about them today. But that's sort of how it all got started. It was just an idea. And we just stepped out and said, let's do it. We truthfully didn't even know much. I didn't know how to record podcasts. I didn't know much about it. We played around a little bit to try and figure it all out. And yeah, here it is. I think the funny part is you and I both do not like to listen to ourselves. We recorded back. So here we are doing this podcast thinking, oh, what are we doing? I'm just like, I want to listen to that guy. You're great. I hear me and I go, who would want to listen to him? But nonetheless, I think that's why it works great is because we work together. And yeah, so here we are. We're in our little corner here at the Wall Coffee Roasters. We don't really, some of our pictures you see are on air sign behind us. And we have all our equipment set up. And yeah, we just, away we go. So Cam, do you want to know the first date we recorded our podcast? Okay. June 27th. No. Yes. Serious? That was our inaugural episode. June 27th. Wow. I know. It seems like forever ago. Doesn't it? Or it seems like just yesterday. That's really incredible. June 27th. The fact that we started it at the end of June, almost July. And for the amount of listeners we have, and worldwide. All over the world. Honestly, this is a piece that amazes me. Yeah. Technology shows us where our listeners are. Now, of course, the bulk of them are Alberta and around here. But when we started seeing that people are actually genuinely listening to us in other parts of the world, I'm like, my goodness. And on a regular basis. On a regular basis. Yeah. It really is. So, you know, when we first started, we did, again, full transparency. We thought like five people would listen. Our families, and then they would get bored and stop listening. Yeah, they would stop. They'd move on to something else. To Joe Rogan or something like that. But anyways, and it just kept growing and going and growing and going. And a lot of that has to do with our guests. 100%. And when they're on and they're telling their friends and stuff like that. But it's just, it's been unbelievable where it's gone. And so June 27th, wow, that's really incredible. So for half a year, we've been doing this. And for those that stuck it out after that inaugural episode, because it was a little rough. That was a little rough, that one. We were trying to figure it all out. Should we air this or shouldn't we? Well, let's just do it. Well, let's just go with it. Yeah, let's just do it. And you know, I want to say a big thank you. We don't mention her very often to Hannah. Oh, Hannah is amazing. She's the one who uploads these. She's the one who does kind of the behind the scenes once we've recorded. And she makes it happen. So without Hannah, none of this would get out there. That's right. Shout out to Hannah. Yeah, shout out to Hannah. So yeah, it was so new to us. We had no idea. We're still rookies at it. We are. You know, we've had people tell us, hey, why don't you come record in a studio or our studio? Yes. And we just said, no, we're not doing that. We're staying here in the coffee shop. We're staying in our booth in the coffee shop and we're keeping it grassroots. That's right. Because we get good coffee. Yes. And this is just a great place to have conversation. And you know what, Cam, I really feel, and our guests have told us this. Yeah. I think a lot of them are really nervous coming in. Some of them have never done a podcast before, but they come to the Wall Coffee Roasters. They grab a cup of coffee. They sit down with us. It's so relaxed. You know what? It puts our guests at ease. Yeah, it's just relaxed. Which is why we will never go to a professional studio. Never will. We like it here. ABA Coffee in the Park is always going to be at the Wall Coffee Roasters. Until Michael kicks us out. Until he kicks us out. He hasn't done that yet. And so shout out to Michael for letting us do our podcast here, because he could have got rid of us a long time ago. We could be sitting out in the parking lot, which today would be a little cold. Yeah, a little trailer. That's right. Hi, we're coming to you live from our little trailer. The heat's not on. It's minus 74 in here. But anyway, we're in the warmth of the beautiful coffee shop. So Cam, I made, because quite honestly, there's been so many great guests. I needed to write this down so I wouldn't forget. So you have a list? I have a list. Of all our guests? Of our guests from 2024. Okay, so who was our very first guest? Our very first inaugural guest, and I am so happy she said yes, was Jan Michener from Michener Allen Auctioneering, and now owner of Deb's Dogs, the food trailer. Yeah, yeah, she was great for a first guest because she made it easy on us. She had great stories to tell, she had great personality, and she was probably looking at us going, Whoa, you guys, but she was such a good sport, and she did a great job. And she had a fantastic story. She does have a fantastic story. She does. Yeah, yeah. No, she was really great, and I'm glad she was our first guest. Thank you, Jan, for being our first guest. Thank you, Jan, and so she kicked it off. All right, then we had... Well, we had to have owner of The Wall Coffee Roaster, Michael Wall. Michael Wall. That's right, and he has a great story. Just even how he started this whole coffee business. That's right. How he went into coffee roasting, period. And I think it was a good play on our part, because he was on the podcast. Again, he hasn't kicked us out as a result. No, he hasn't kicked us out. So yeah, Michael did a great job, and it was awesome. And again, another really great story. And then... Oh, I love this lady. She is a dynamo. Tamara Sanderson from RST. Tamara was great. And has a great story. And she was awesome. She telling her story. We've had really good feedback from Tamara's podcast. And not only that, she's such a faithful listener. And such a faithful supporter. I know. And a booster of the podcast. Tamara, if you were listening right now, you are amazing. She's one of our biggest fans. She really is. In fact, her, she brought her mom. That's right. Because her mom listens to us. And her mom wanted to go to downtown, beautiful downtown Acheson. And Tamara had to bring her here. I think she was a little disappointed. I think she was a little underwhelmed. But it's okay. Yeah, that's right. But we thought that was really great. And Tamara told us that story. And so we thought right there, oh, well, people are actually listening. So we had to be careful what we were saying. But nonetheless. Yes. And then, oh, this was a good one. And you recall this one because we ate some delicious food. Mr. Mike Chadi from Wing Snob. Oh, man, that was the best. Wasn't that a great episode? He brought wings. And if you've never been to Wing Snob, it's a fantastic franchise in the city of Edmonton. And Mike brought wings that day. Great story of starting of his life and starting his franchise. From a lawyer to wings. To Wing Snob. He's like putting people in jail to getting people to eat his wings. Hey, I think the latter is better. Yeah, no kidding. And he does too, I think. I think so too. So that was really cool. And I really enjoyed Mike. And thanks for bringing the wings. That was awesome. Yeah, exactly. And then we did something a little different. We brought one of our not-for-profit partners on. We brought on Sheri Ratsoy from the Parkland Food Bank to talk about her story and why she's been a part of the Parkland Food Bank for as long as she has been. That was a great story. And it was also, I thought that one, a great info session on the food bank. She told us things that people don't know about the food bank. And it played such an important role in our community. For sure. So, Sheri, thank you for coming on to do that. Appreciate that, Sheri. And then we went on to, oh, Benny Loates, Ben Loates. For those of you that listened to, well, if you haven't listened to the Ben Loates Podcast. Oh, boy, if you want to, wow. That's gotta be in one, you gotta go listen to Benny Loates. It was amazing. Ben's story is just unbelievable. Skateboarder to real estate agent. Skateboarder to real estate agent, few things in between, clown and all that kind of stuff. He's so funny. And he was great. What a great story and what a great guy. You know what? You will not find a nicer person than Ben and his wife, Jenna. We get to see them a lot here at the coffee shop. I believe it is also their second office. That's right. And so often when we're recording our podcast, they're sitting right over there and it's great. And he's just, they're such great supporters of ours. They are. Thank you, Benny. You're awesome, buddy. So this next one was a lot of fun because we had to do a road show. That's right. That was our first road show. It was our first road show. Our first remote. Remote, yes. And mostly because it was a cat and he couldn't come in the coffee shop. That's right. Felix the cat, the shop cat. Felix the shop cat from Bushell Transport. That's right. And we couldn't bring him in to the, because you know, health regulations and all that. So we had to go to Felix. And people were thinking, well, why a cat? But he is Acheson and Instagram famous. That's right. He has like what, 25? No, like close to 3,000. 3,000 followers on Instagram. I know. And so, yeah, he was such a big hit, such a success. He was famous because he also was our... He won Podcast Guest of the Year Award at our awards gala. Our first Podcast Guest of the Year. His social media handler, Cheryl Glattacker, aka owner of Bushell Transport, had to accept on his behalf because, again, he had cat duties. Yeah, he had cat duties. So yeah. So that was a lot of fun. I enjoyed that remote. And then we did Don and Jan from Mprint. Yes. Yeah. What a great story. Beautiful people. Siblings. Wonderful people, brother and sister. Own Mprint here in Acheson. Big supporters of ours. Jan sits on the ABA board. And they're just great people. Started during COVID. Yeah. What a story. What a story. Yeah. Small print shop starting during COVID. It was fantastic. Yeah, it was great. Oh, you and I had a blast with this next lady, Cathy Dool. Oh, Cathy. Cathy Dool is amazing. Cathy helped start the Acheson Business Association 30 years ago. And they own Hayworth Trucking here in Acheson. But Cathy, I'm telling you, there's nobody that makes me laugh like Cathy. She just gets me going and makes me feel really good at the end of the day. That was a great interview. It was. This next one was really a highlight for me. And I think a bit of a highlight for you. It was Mr. Wes Wall, owner of Genics. Yeah, owner of Genics. And winner of this year's Lifetime Achievement Award. That's right, at the Gala. And not only because Wes is my boss, but because Wes has been my friend, one of my best friends for 45 years. And just a great guy, great business he runs. One of the most caring, giving guys I know. And yeah, he won the Lifetime Achievement Award, which was pretty awesome. It was. Yeah. Yes. Oh, Cam, this next guest. Oh, this one. This one was quite the interview for anybody that hasn't listened to his story. You must. It was our friend, Tyler Pelke. Oh, Tyler. Yeah. You know, Jennifer, I remember, you and I talked a lot about this. And even, you know, we wanted to have Tyler on, but the story is so, it's just so impactful. It's so amazing. And I remember you and I talking a lot about, you know, how are we going to approach it? How are we going to approach this one? And then Tyler came on and told his story. And actually Tyler, I think, made it really easy for us. He did. Because you and I were really nervous about this one. Yeah, we were. You're right. And you and I talked a lot, but he did such an amazing job. If you have not listened to Tyler's story, do it. Be prepared, because it's going to tug at your heart, not only tug at your heartstrings, but there's people who have gone through traumas and things like that. But what a story. Phenomenal story. Tyler, thank you so much for coming on and doing this podcast. Then after Tyler, we had... Well, we had Mr. Murray McCourt, who is the General Manager of the Ranch Golf and Country Club, which I don't think people know is in Acheson. That's right. People think it's more in Edmonton, Wrong! but it's actually in Acheson. We claim it. It's Acheson. It's ours. And that's where we do the ABA Golf Tournament every year. Yes, which you and I had a blast at. We did, that's right. We had to patrol the entire golf course in the golf cart. And yeah, we made sure that we got to everybody and it was fun. And Murray, they do such a great job out there. And he has a great story. He had a fantastic story. Yeah, just, I mean, where he's been and what he's done. And he's wrote a book. Yeah, wrote a book. And oh, man, that was great. Love Murray, yep. Okay. This next guest is my heart. She is one of my favorites. You know she's one of my favorites. Yeah, I love her too, but she's one of your favorites. I know. And she always claims I bully her into things. Well. It's not true. Well, no, well, you know. She's always happy she does it after. I know. At the end, she's all, I'm so glad I did that. But yeah, she needs a little convincing. She does. So I don't know if you bully her, but you're very good at convincing. There we go. Darlene Whittaker. Darlene Whittaker, President and CEO of ReliableTube. Darlene is amazing. Was also a Lifetime Achievement Award winner at our gala last year. 2023, Lifetime Achievement Award winner. One of the most caring, giving ladies, but what an incredible story of resilience and perseverance. I just love Darlene. I've known Darlene many years and her family, and she is one of your favorites. One of my favorites. I love her. She's amazing. She is a powerhouse. You just have to convince her a little bit. I know, but she is an inspiration for me, 100 percent. Once she gets going, she's amazing. So then after Darlene was, oh, this was a great one. Broddy Olson. We had Broddy Olson. Now Broddy is one of the, or is the? I think he is the longest serving member of the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra. How long has he been? Like, he was, like, like, it's like a year, like a long time. Yeah. Yeah, I don't even want to say it because I don't want to, I don't want to misrepresent it. But Broddy has an amazing story. Broddy and his wife, Patty, Patty had a severe accident and became a full quadriplegic. And Broddy came on and told the story about their their journey. And Patty has passed on. But he told the story. And because he plays in the symphony, he brought his violin. He played Amazing Grace. It was so cool. Do you remember the whole place went quiet? The Wall just shut down. And everyone's looking at Broddy. And I'm looking around. I'm looking at you, me. And there's tears in our eyes. And he just sat here and played Amazing Grace. It was so good. Wonderful guy. So good. Love you, Broddy. You're just amazing. Appreciate you coming on. And then we had Mr. Darren Hinkel of the Black Dirt Company. Yeah, Darren, what a great story. It was a great story. It was because it was like one of those family stories, family succession of business. And, you know, when you hear Black Dirt Company, you're like, well, what's a, you know, is there money in Black Dirt? Well, it's quite a story. And you know what I really loved about Darren's story was his involvement in the community. Yeah. I thought, you know what, this is a guy that gets it. Yeah, he did. Yeah. And he does. And he's, it was a great story or great inspiration. It was, for sure. I think for businesses. And then after Darren, we did our Thanksgiving special. Remember that? Because we taste tested the pumpkin pie. Oh, what did we ever? Yeah. We talked about what we did. We did. We talked about Thanksgiving traditions, what to not talk about at the family table. That's right. Because there's certain things you shouldn't be talking about. Right. Yes. And so here, if anybody is listening to this, if you took us literally and actually took us up on our pumpkin pie recommendations, let us know. Because I don't think anybody, I don't know. I don't know, but they should have. They should have, because we tried them. But you know what, after eating all that pumpkin pie, I'll be honest and say I ate nothing at Thanksgiving for pumpkin pie. I was like, I'm done. No, thank you. No, thank you. Now that you say that, neither did I. That's hilarious. I know. Okay. Then after our Thanksgiving special, this was a big one for us, Mike Myshak Sr. Boy, was it ever. Yeah. We weren't sure. This took a bit of conversation back and forth. It took some convincing, yeah. But wow. Yeah. We are so honored that Mr. Myshak Sr. agreed to come on our podcast and share his amazing journey. Mr. Myshak is. 89. 89 years old. Yeah. And what a story. Absolutely. Those who work or are familiar with Acheson and Edmonton area, well, and actually Alberta will know the Myshaks and their business. Yes. And what they do. And when Mr. Myshak Sr. came on and began to tell his story, I mean, it's just, it's amazing. It really was. It's just incredible. So thank you, Mr. Myshak. And we had his son, Jim on, and his grandson, Mike Jr. And we actually had a little bit of a studio audience that day. We had his granddaughters, I think. Because a bunch of his family members were here. And that was pretty cool. I just thought that was really cool. Yeah, that was a great podcast. Yeah, great podcast. Absolutely. After that, we had, and we've talked about it on the podcast Gather Bakery, we had Teresa Jackson. Yeah, Gather Bakery. Yeah. We go there too much. I know. Matter of fact, we just did our Christmas special, and we were, we actually made... That's where we got our gingerbread people. Yeah, we made gingerbread people. Gingerbread, they have gingerbread people kits. Yes. And we made gingerbread people while we were doing the podcast. And actually, if you go back, you'll see it on our social media, Jennifer's and mine's gingerbread people. Inspirational story of she is a single mom now, raising like a lot of kids on her own. Seven or something like that. Doing a great job. Runs a couple businesses right across Canada. Absolutely. And so yeah, great story. Tune in to that story. I love that one. This next one was a lot of fun for me. We got to turn the tables and we got to interview someone who interviews people, Mr. Daryl McIntyre. Yeah, Daryl McIntyre. Yeah. He came to MC, our gala. He did. And agreed, graciously agreed to come on the podcast. And those again in Alberta and area know Daryl. You know Daryl McIntyre. Because he was on the news forever and ever and ever and ever and ever. He was 630 ched, which is now, I don't even know what it is. I don't know what they are now. But anyway, I don't even know if they're anything now. But yeah, that was a great interview. And it was kind of fun. He made that easy. I enjoyed that one. Oh, well of course. He's such a pro, right? And then after Daryl. We went on another road show. That's right. Remember? That's right. We went on a road show. This is one of my favorites. Amy Quon from the Lingnan restaurant. And we went to the Lingnan. Remember? We went to the Lingnan and what a blast that was. But you know, the best part of that one was before we interviewed Amy, remember we went and had dinner at the Lingnan and she put on a dinner. And then we interviewed Amy a couple of weeks later. And that was just so much fun. What a story. And to be at the restaurant, nobody but just you and me and Amy. Yes. We were the only ones there. That's right. It was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. And then after Amy, we did, oh, Brett Oland from Bow Valley Credit Union, the president and CEO of Bow Valley Credit Union. What a great story. Cayman Islands. Like that could be like, well, I think that was like an amazing story. Yeah. Dealing with banks in the Cayman. We had to ask if it was legal. That's right. Because we've only seen it in movies. That's right. So yeah, Brett was great. He was. That was a lot of fun. And then, this is another Dynamo lady. You know, I love all, I mean, all of our guests are great. But you know what? These women we've interviewed are so inspirational. Super. I mean, amazing women. And this one is the ultimate go-getter, Bronwyn Scrivens. Bronwyn Scrivens. She was amazing. Wasn't she? It's like she's like the top, one of the top 40 under 40. She's just, she's just like a go-getter. Vice President of JLL, which is commercial real estate. Yeah. What a story. Graduate of U of A, graduate of NYU, graduate of Cornell, one of those places. Just unbelievable. One of a dynamite force in the real estate business here in Alberta. Yeah. She was incredible. She is. And then this is where I coined the word Achesonite, if you recall, for our dear friend Karen Fallowfield from Supreme Steel. Karen, she was great. She is a true Achesonite. She is working with Karen is just amazing and everything she's done. Another very strong woman in leadership. And she was also a nominee, as was Bronwyn for our Women in Leadership Award. Yes. Fantastic. Absolutely. And then we had another Acheson business owner. Oh, yeah. Reina VanGenderen. Thank you. I always have a little trouble with that one. From VanGenderen Cranes. Yes. And that was a really fascinating story. I learned a lot that episode. You wouldn't think Cranes are all that interesting, but actually, Cranes are really interesting. Listen to that podcast. Listen to the podcast. And I found out that, well, we talked about how there's a crane company on every corner in Acheson, and they don't all hate each other. No, they actually work together. Yeah, they kind of work together. I just thought, you know, that was really interesting in the way she kind of made us understand how they work together and why they work together. But their story, incredible. It really was. I wonder if they got their new crane yet. Because at the time of the podcast, remember, they had that new crane, it was coming. So I wonder if they got that yet. We'll have to find out. That was a really great story. I really enjoyed sitting with Reina that day. And then to wind up 2024, Cam, we had the absolute honor of interviewing Mike and Lea Stelter with the Ben Stelter Foundation. What a story, of course. Those in Alberta and really everywhere around know the story of Ben Stelter, the young boy who died of cancer, but has raised literally millions of dollars for cancer research. And his mom and dad, Mike and Lea, now basically run the Ben Stelter Foundation and do such an amazing job. And you know, just sitting here with them that day, because we always talk about our podcast being the story behind the story. And the story, of course, is Ben, without a doubt. But we wanted to know their story. Yes, we did. And they were so open with us. They were so generous. Yes. And they were willing to just tell us. Cam, I cried. That was a hard podcast for me. That was a hard podcast. And it, you know, because they told that we went back to before sort of the fame and before all the notoriety. And wanted to know about what it was like for them. Absolutely. And they were so transparent with us. And so again, if you're listening and you haven't listened to that particular podcast, for sure go and listen to it. And if you can contribute to the Ben Stelter Foundation, do it because, you know, Jennifer, and you and I both know this, cause we worked in these fields. It's one of those not for profits where I would have absolutely no trouble. Me too. Recommending them. Yeah. They were fantastic. Get that tax receipt before December 31st. Yeah, that's right. And you'll be helping a bunch of people. 100%. Yeah. So pretty incredible. Yeah. Well, Cam, that's the list. That's the Year End Review. It's since June, end of June. Unbelievable. That's a lot of people. That's a lot of people. And I'm thankful that you wrote it all down, because I would never remember, but it's just been fantastic. It's been fantastic. And Cam, I am so looking forward to 2025 for this podcast. Me too. Jennifer, we've got some great guest lined already. We sure do. I'm pretty excited about it. So am I. And I'm pretty excited about it. And it's just, I hope, I hope it's just getting better. I hope that people listening, and I think they are, are finding these stories fascinating, because I sure do. Yeah, fascinating. I hope encouraging in certain areas, because that was part of our goal too, is that we wanted people to know that there are other people out there. Going through what they're going through. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. And so I hope in those ways, it's encouraging for them too. And so in 2025, you and I are going to be sitting here at the table again, every Tuesday. Again, unless Michael kicks us out. Unless Michael kicks us out, every Tuesday, and we're here. And I'm just going to say this because, first of all, you heard us talk about the beginnings. And Jennifer, thank you for taking the risk. You have to put up with a lot of my really harebrained ideas. I really do people. Our offices are 20 feet apart, 30 feet apart. And I think some days she just walks out. Well, no, actually I take that back. I know some days she walks out of my office, just shaking her head. But you are such a good sport. And not only that, you are willing to step out and take a risk. That's something that I just felt we could do to just encourage people. And so I want to say thank you. I want to say thank you for being here every week with me. I couldn't do it without you. Well, we've talked about this. If one of us said, nope, we're done. That's it for the ABA Coffee In The Park Podcast. If something happens and Jennifer decides to move. If I win that lotto, people. Yeah, she's gone to the Cayman Islands. Cross your fingers, I win. That will be the last episode of ABA. But yeah, I do mean it. Because you know what? It's something I look forward to. And I'm just, I couldn't ask for a better co-host. Well, ditto. And I'm thankful. It is the highlight of my week every week, getting to do this with you. So thank you for having the harebrained idea for this podcast. I think it's the last one you've actually listened to. But we'll come up with something else. Anyway, the other thank you needs to go out to all of you. Yes. Our listeners. Yes. I don't know how to say thank you enough. Obviously, we'll never get to meet you all. Some we get to see. Some we do. Thank you for the words of encouragement. Yes. Thank you for the emails of encouragement. Thank you for listening. Thank you to our guests who are willing to come on our show. And yeah, it's been fantastic. It's been fantastic. Thank you all. We hope you enjoy your new year as you ring in 2025. Yep. And it's our thoughts and prayers that 2025 will be a good year. And we just want you to just keep listening. Keep listening. So make sure you tell your friends. And tell your neighbors, tell your coworkers, tell your enemies. If you don't have any friends, make a friend so you can tell them about the ABA Coffee in the Park Podcast. 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