A Coffee with Daryl McIntyre

Join us for a coffee and chat with Daryl McIntyre

Today, we decided to shake things up and put Daryl in the hot seat, reversing the roles on him. With his wealth of experience in interviewing guests, it was only fair to see how he handled being on the receiving end. Daryl's love for radio and television dates back to his childhood, and he pursued his passion by attending NAIT's esteemed Radio and Television program. Throughout the years, he has become a cherished and familiar presence in Edmonton, thanks to his long tenure as the news anchor on CTV Edmonton.

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Well, good morning, everybody, and welcome to another edition of the ABA Coffee In The Park podcast. My name is Cam Milliken, and I am here with the extraordinary Jennifer Herrick, the Executive Director of the Acheson Business Association. Hi, Jennifer. Hi, Cam. How are you this morning? Oh, if I was any better, I am doing fantastic. Fall is in the air. It's a beautiful day, and I'm very excited. Well, it is a little chilly out there this morning. It is a tad bit chilly. Winter's coming, but you know what? This is kind of a cool kind of year. Get it? Cool kind of year, anyway, a bad joke. But anyways, hey, we are coming to you from the Wall Coffee Roasters in the heart of Beautiful Downtown Acheson. That's right. So if you hear some noise in the background, maybe some people talking or some expresso machines expressing or whatever they do. I'm not really sure what they do. Hey, it's because we're doing this live, right? In the Wall Coffee Shop. That's right. In Beautiful Downtown Acheson. Speaking of Beautiful Downtown Acheson, Cam, we have some exciting news to share about something we launched at our gala this past weekend. That's right. Go ahead, Jennifer. We have merch. Merch, that's right. We have t-shirts. We have mugs. It's amazing. And you know what? We sold a bunch of it at the at the gala. We did. And the exciting news is that soon you will be able to buy your own Beautiful Downtown Acheson t-shirt or ABA Coffee In The Park mug on our website. That's right. So hey, watch out for that. www.Achesonbusiness.com and we'll get that all set up so you can buy a t-shirt, you can buy a mug, we'll even sign it for you if you want. That would be fantastic. You can sell it in 25 years on eBay. Is there eBay? Is there still eBay? I don't think there's eBay. It's like this Facebook Marketplace thing. I never use it. But anyway, but I was also going to say, hey, listen, you know what? If you are, you hear us talk about Beautiful Downtown Acheson and you should, people should come visit. So, you know, throw the kids, throw the dog in the station wagon, come on out to Beautiful Downtown Acheson. There really isn't much to Downtown Acheson other than the Wall Coffee Roasters. That's right. And some of the best coffee you'll ever have. So, hey, we just throw that one out there for free. Jennifer, tell us about some people that help us make this happen. We would like to thank our gold corporate sponsors, which include the MyShak Group of Companies, Genics and Parkland County. We could not do what we do at the ABA without these businesses and want to thank them sincerely for their continued support. That's right and thank you very much that we get to do this every week. Thank you everybody for listening all around the world. People are listening to us and that's phenomenal. And so we're very excited about that. And I am super excited about our guest today. I really am. I mean, I didn't sleep last night. Well, actually it was because of the pizza I ate the night before. But nonetheless, I didn't sleep last night, so I'm very excited. Jennifer, introduce our guest. Well, our guest today, this is a bit of a reversal of roles because our guest today was in media doing what we're doing now for many years. That's right. He's the pro. He's the pro. With the amateurs. Well, here we go. And it's kind of cool that he'd take the time to do this. So introduce our guest. So our guest today is Mr. Daryl McIntyre, currently retired. However, currently you make it sound like that's about to change. No, well maybe. Maybe. Maybe. One never knows. We could always use a third on the podcast. That'd be awesome. So most of our listeners would know Daryl most recently before he retired as the host on 630 Ched. You were the morning host. And on CTV. And before CTV it was? It was CKBG in Prince George. And before that, it was CKSA in Lloyd Minster. All right. But you could also say that before CTV, it was CFRN. For anybody who remembers CFRN, Popcorn Playhouse, one of my favorite shows when I was like... Kiddies On Camera. That's right. Kiddies On Camera. I was on... Baby Haws in the Barn. I was on Popcorn Playhouse. I remember. It was awesome. And actually, I don't remember it. But I was on there. It was really incredible. Well, I'm from Saskatchewan. You don't even know what CFRN is. It's all right. It's cool. Well, welcome, Daryl. It's good to have you. Oh, great to be here. Nice to see you guys again. I thought it would be once a year maybe, and that's it. But no, I'm getting my influence from Cam and Jennifer twice in one week. That's right. Well, we should make it more often. Yeah, we should work on that. So it's great to be here. It's kind of funny, and I want to say thank you because I'm really enjoying this. Since I'm retired, I'm not speaking every day like I was when I was doing the radio show. And so doing the gala on Saturday night, my voice the next day was just, brrr. Listen, do you need a cough drop? Seriously, I'm not even kidding. Cam has him in his pocket like regularly, all right? Here you go. If you need one of those, there you go. You can keep your linty pocket mint. The wrapper's still on it now. It's all right. I didn't take it off. But it's great. I can walk around and go, you'll never find. And it just drops down. I know. No, we now doing this, we experiencing the same thing. This is our second podcast this week. That's right. We're not used to that. Vocal strain, vocal strain. But anyway, so we understand what you're talking about. So anyway, welcome. Good to have you. Great to be here. So we're going to kick it off. And Daryl, tell us a little bit about yourself. Where did you grow up? I sort of counted to Edmonton and Vermillion. It's both my hometown. So I grew up in the early part of my life in Edmonton and then ended up growing up in... My mom remarried, married a farmer north of Vermillion. We moved out there. So from pretty much grade five on, Vermillion was home. So it's like a tale of two cities. I can consider both to be home. And then I went to NAIT in Edmonton. My grandmother's been here. I've lived here or I had lived here since 86, officially on, you know... So you're in Edmontonian. Yeah. With Vermillion roots. With red roots, Vermillion roots. That's right. Vermillion, great place. Yeah. It's an awesome place. I always remember there was, back in the day, there would be little things that come on TV and it was community announcements. And a guy, I think his name was Byron Moore would come on. It was just a slide. And the town always went with a red hat as its signature Vermillion. And it was the red hat town on the yellow headroom. Right on. Yeah. Awesome. And so, yeah, so tell us a little bit, Vermillion, Edmonton, and tell us about your little foray into how you... Into media. Into media. How you got... Did you want to do that since you were like six or... I think so. You mentioned Popcorn Playhouse. I watched TV, like so many of us, as growing up basically in the 70s. I was born in 63, so going into the late 60s and through the 70s, I watched TV all the time. I always thought newscasters were the smartest people in the world because they always knew exactly when it was daylight saving time and when it was not. And they knew what was going on. How do they know? Yes, how do they know? Exactly. I liked... I always had an affinity for English, for social studies and current events, and also for drama. So there was that writing, understanding and performing all at the same time. Right. It's basically what you end up doing in the news. Sure, you're not acting, but you are performing and you are making that role. Right. But you better know what you're saying and how to say it. Yeah, fake news ain't so good. Nowadays, we can go diving down that road. That's right. But anyway, so basically in high school, there was a girl just a grade ahead of me, Adele Yakinchuk. And she got into a course called Radio and Television Arts at NAIT, which I had no idea even existed. Yeah. So once she basically opened the door and said, oh, this exists, I went, okay, I'd love to do that. So that's what I did. Went to NAIT and then got a job in Lloyd Minster. And then I got a job in Prince George. And then I got a job in Edmonton. Were those radio or TV jobs? Both. Yeah, all of them were multiple. So CKSA Radio and Television and CITL Television, because they had two, they were both a CBC and CTV affiliate. Really? Small one town, right? So they could actually do both out of that. What a, man, that's a coup, eh? CTV and CBC. And a radio station. Right. The right and the left. Anyway, we won't get into that either. That's kind of interesting in itself right there. Well, this was early 80s. Right, right. So everybody was right. Everybody was correct. That's right. Well, that's pretty awesome. So radio, were you the daytime guy, the nighttime guy, the any time guy? I tended to, I ended up doing late night when I was in Lloydminster and then I would do afternoon drive radio news. So I do the newscasts in the afternoon. After you drive in Lloyd. Yeah. In rush hour Same in Prince George. I would do some newscasts on the radio, but I was primarily the suppertime anchor in Prince George. Okay. Then I came to Edmonton. I did weekends, did a little bit of radio because CFRN and CFRN radio. Yeah. So I did a little bit of that. But mostly my first job in Edmonton was, it was my 23rd birthday present. I got the job on October 27th, 1986, and I turned 23 years old two days later. Really? And I was doing weekends. I worked weekends and I was a reporter during the week. Fantastic. And then in 1989, I was 25 years old and a guy by the name of Bob Chelmick was co-anchoring with Daphne Kuhn. Yeah. And he moved to CBC and I slid into his desk, and I never left for 33 years. Fantastic. 33 years. Yeah, you were there a long time. You were a staple. I'm just going to tell you, we were at the gala and you did a fantastic job at the gala. And my 93-year-old mother was there, and she was all excited when she saw you, and she goes, I know him from TV. Yes, you do, mom, because you watch the news religiously. And she was so excited that the news TV guy was there. That was really exciting to her, so it was kind of cool. So the early years at CFRN, CTV, tell us about that. Well, I have a picture, you mentioned Popcorn Playhouse. I mean, you're not familiar with it, but anytime you have a kid show after school, that's a big deal, right? And if you get to be on it at some point, that's pretty cool. But the host was Eric Neville. Yes, that's right, Eric Neville. When I started doing the Six O'Clock News, I was doing it with Eric Neville. Okay. And Al McCann. Al McCann. And Daphne Cann. Yes. Right, so I have a picture, and I can show it to you, it's kind of hard to show on a podcast, of us in 1989 with the four of us. So there's this 25-year-old big, two grizzled vets and then Daphne was not a grizzled vet. This is walking back for me, this is walking down memory lane, because I grew up, I watched all that, I saw all that. CFRN was huge, I mean, in those days, it was just huge. Here's another really cool example, you mentioned your mom. So my grandmother, when she found out I was going to work at CFRN, she thought I had made it a big time. Because as far as she was concerned, that was TV. It didn't matter who was on the TV, they were all equal stars. So Gabie Hawes was just as big as Ed Sullivan. Right. There was no differentiation for the two of us. And if I remember correctly back in those days, there wasn't cable yet, or it was just coming in, I guess. Cable was just coming in. Yeah, that's right. So CFRN was the one that came in the clearest. So you were always watching CFRN. That was the station. And ITV didn't sign on. No, yeah, no. It was 50 years after they did it. Yeah, ITV came later. Yeah, 50 years. Yeah, yeah. Then those guys, all Greg Musselman and all those guys came along. 74, right? That's right. It was when they came on. Yeah, no, it's fantastic. CFRN. Wow. And is it normal for an anchor man to stay at one station that long? I mean, it can. Yeah. Once you get into that position, it's a pretty good spot. And there's lots of there were lots of places all across the country where there were denizens of that particular market. Daryl Jans in Calgary. Right. Oh, yes, Daryl. Yeah. That's CFCN, CTB. He was there 40 years. Yeah. I think. So I think he was about 76 and then continued on forever. So he was there for a long time. Tony Parsons was in Vancouver and DC. Tony was there forever. Yeah. There was a guy named Tom Gibney in Toronto. He was there forever. Yeah. Steve Murphy in Halifax. He was there forever. Yeah. And I will say it tended to be the men who lasted the longest. Yes. And there's there's there's reasons for that. And it was some things were unfair in a lot of ways. But it's funny to say Tony Parsons. I lived in Vancouver for 30 years. And when Tony retired, everybody thought the world was ending. Like, I'm not kidding. Like people were like, now who are we going to watch? It was there. Walter Cronkite. Yeah, exactly. And he was good and he was professional and he was amazing. And honestly, I remember the day he said he was leaving. Everybody thought the world was ending in Vancouver. We were all in mourning. But so obviously, you guys have made your mark and you've staked your claim and you've made your place. And that's pretty phenomenal. It was very cool. You'll never see that again. No, I don't think so. No, I don't think you will. You can't. That's really cool. Because the whole media landscape has totally changed. Is entirely different. It is, yeah. So tell us about that. How has it changed? Tell us about that. Talk about that. How long is this podcast? Yeah, well, we can edit. We can do it, we can edit it down. But what's changed? I was talking to a friend of mine earlier this week when I was doing some visiting. And I was thrilled. Even if I'd started about 10 years earlier than I did, then I could have said I lived through the golden years of broadcast, journalism, television. As it was the last 10 years, you started to see a slip. What has changed? It's social media, digital media, the expansion of other forms of media. It used to be if you wanted to know what was going on, you had to wait till 6 o'clock, turn on the news and find out. Now it's all over and it's everywhere. It really had about 2008 when the iPhone, 2007 when the iPhone came out and then Facebook, and then Twitter, and then it just slowly started to, it didn't become appointment television anymore. Advertising revenue started to drop. What happens when advertising revenues comes in, they find a way to try to consolidate or you get larger companies buying up the smaller companies, they can't compete anymore, so you have consolidation. At the end of the day, you have three players, and I understand you've got to pay your shareholders, but if you keep diluting the product, it becomes less than what it was. So it becomes a self-fulfilling doom prophecy, I think. So that's what's changed. And eyeballs are everywhere, right? Yes. Yeah, and everybody's got a voice. Everybody's got a voice. Sometimes that's good. Everybody's got a podcast. Daryl, everybody has a podcast. Five million podcasts. That's right. It doesn't matter. But who's gonna listen? That's right. So you have to find an audience in a way. So it worries me in some ways, because now what is truth? Well, this is truth from this person's point of view. It's truth from this person's point of view. Is there a one truth? Yeah, so yeah, and we don't want to go back into it, but the whole fake news, the whole what's real, what's not real, all of that kind of stuff. That plays off people's lots of things. So there's lots of sort of paranoia, fear and suspicion that goes into that. If you disagree with it, you instantly decide, oh, that's fake news. Yeah, yeah. So it becomes messy. It's gonna be really interesting, I'd say over the next five years, what this looks like. Yeah, I agree. And there is concern for me as far as democracy and how our society functions, if we're not all sort of looking in the same direction, if everybody's going all over the place, then sometimes... Oh, and that's a great point. I think that in itself would be an hour long podcast right there, because it really would. And I think your concerns are for sure real. There's a funny cartoon, so I'll do one more thing. We're funny. Pointed cartoon where two people stand in there, one with a bullhorn says, you have made a very valid point, but I'm louder. Yeah, that's it. That's it, isn't it? That's right. That is our world today. The loudest wins, yeah, for sure. Sometimes. I know. So Daryl, I know you've had so many moments over the years. Share with us maybe some of your favorite moments. See, this is always a weird question to answer. Why? Because in news, when something big happens, it tends to be not good. Not the best news. It's not the best news, right? So, but from our point of view, that's when feet hit the road, everything jumps in and that's where you really do your job. You show what your jobs are. So for me, it's always been around the major unfortunate stories, everything from the tornado in Hamilton to the different fires and that kind of thing. So when that happens and you mobilize and you try to make sure that everybody's informed and you go, you'd work 13, 16, 20 hour days if whatever was necessary to get it done. So those ones always come to mind. But then there's fun things where I got to go and follow the Oilers in 2006 to Raleigh as a news person. So I was doing side news stories because there were so many people from Oilers fans driving to North Carolina in buses. So we were doing live stuff outside and then at night during the games, I would help out our sports guy Adam. So he would cover the Oilers as he should, and I basically covered the hurricane. So when they won the Stanley Cup, I would have rather been with the Oilers. But I was in the winning room, there were champagne flying everywhere and all those Edmonton connections to that team. Everything from Doug Wade to Mike Commodore, Cam Ward. Oh yeah, I remember that was big deal. That was big times. Ray Whitney's dad. Yes, that's right. Ray Whitney. So there were so many people that were involved there. Yeah, I know. So those are the things. It's always routine. It's fine. And you go and you do your job every day. But it's those little spikes either of excitement or enthusiasm that are really cool. Who's the most interesting person you ever met? Cam Milliken. We've known each other 47 minutes. Oh, jeez. I had no idea. How do you pick somebody who's the most interesting person? I don't, because that's why you probably met. I'm just wondering, is there one person that sticks out? This was best interview I ever did, best story I ever did, best... I'll tell you one. This was the one that was the most fun. So I was doing a noon show because I was doing noon and 6 o'clock at CFRN. And Jean Chrétien was in town, the Prime Minister. And he was going to come on the noon show. Pretty big deal to have the Prime Minister live on the noon show. And he was going to come in at about 12.45. So we'd set aside two segments because you're still commercials, et cetera. And we promoted it throughout the hour. And then he didn't get there and he was late and it was running late. And so we're now filling time like crazy. By the time he got in, it was about five to one. Well, we're off the air at one o'clock. Right. Yeah. But we've made the decision to extend a little bit. Well, I don't know whether I had a bit of ego or what it was or a sense of self-importance, but I was pissed off. Yeah, for sure. Hey, Mr. Prime Minister, how dare you not show up for the noon show on CFRN. Yeah. So I think I was maybe a little more aggressive in that interview than I would have been ordinarily. And I was told by one of the stagehands that as Mr. Chretien was leaving, he was going, jeez, that guy was pretty intense, huh? That is a great story. That is a great story. But Jean Chretien, what a great character. Yeah. I had a chance to sit down and have a chat with him. Yeah. I did the interview. No matter where your political views lie. The little guy who should win again. He was fascinating. Wasn't he though? And he was a fighter. And he was amazing. He just never gave up. There's a lot of the politicians, Brian Mulroney. We've talked to him as well. But who really jumps out and stands out? I can't say that any one person does. There are little moments with all of them, I think anyway. Yeah. What was your favorite event to cover in Edmonton? Actual event to cover? See, that's a good one too. Actually, it's interesting to CFR is back. There's always a lot to do. Yeah. This week. I rode my horse in the first River City Roundup. I was able to be part of that and I rode my horse, Big Jake, down the streets of Edmonton doing that, and the parade, and i had him in the parade. So those things were always fun. Other events, any of the cultural ones are always just a hoot. There were world championships, like the Figure Skating World Championship was in the mid 90s, and that was here and that had Elvis Stoicko and all those great names back in the day. And we would do live shows from in the Coliseum, on the Concourse, that was cool. We did a thing at Klondike Days, at K-Days called So You Want To Be On TV. And we had a whole set down there, and then people would come in and read these fake news. That's right, I remember that. I mean Klondike Days is going way back. Most people don't, well, the younger generation, it's K-Days. But I totally remember that. That's right. So I remember that, yeah, that's, oh, man. We did that even in this. This is the walk down memory lane for me. I'm just having a bit of a brain thing going on here. That's what happens when you sit down and talk to old retired guys. Yeah. Oh, yeah, tell me your story. Tell me your story. Oh, my God. No, but yeah. That was cool, and there were people who had done that, say, 30 years ago, why they still had the VHS tape that they would get after. Yeah. Or still have copies of that. And so little kids that have now grown up and they have their own children, go, yeah, I did the news with you way back when. Yeah. That's pretty. Those were the kind of things that I really liked, where you got out of the studio and you got to see people and hang out with people. Were you ever tempted to, did the light seem brighter somewhere else? Absolutely. Yeah. And I looked around and I don't know whether I tried hard enough or didn't have enough confidence or I was, I had, you know, not quite golden, but pretty darn nice handcuffs on already. I was lucky to get that six o'clock job at the age of 25. And I think that took some of the fire out to go and try and find something else. Right. There was another girl who was working at the station about the same time. Her name was Holly Doan and thought that she was going to take over for maybe Daphne at some point. But she recognized that she needed to go and be a reporter and work on some of those journalistic jobs elsewhere. So she went on and did quite well. I stayed, but I didn't. I sent some resumes down, but it didn't fit. I didn't fit in US style kind of stuff. And by that point, then also I was a six o'clock anchor in Edmonton. If I wanted to go to Toronto, well, I'm going to be hitting the reporter. I'm going to be doing late nights on weekends. I didn't want to do that. I want to start all over again. Yeah, so maybe I would have had a shot, but maybe I wouldn't. Maybe I was just in the place I needed to be. Yeah. Well, and I'm glad. I'm glad you stayed. I'm glad for Edmonton's sake you stayed. And people really respect you. They really do. They don't know me. Well, but that's where I was leading with this. It's not that they don't respect you, but they see you every night. Yes. You bring news. They look to you as an authority figure. And for a lot of people, that's really important, that you're constant. And they didn't want to hear my opinion during those, you know? I would get people who would go, oh, you raised an eyebrow at that one. I know what you were thinking. Why do you think you know what I was thinking? Right. Yeah, yeah. But that's really nice. But that's something you build and you protect. Sure. And you protect that jealously, that you protect that integrity and doing the job as best you can. Sure. If you want an opinion, you listen to CJCA and Bill & Bill. That's what you listen to. But if you're just telling the news, there's always some opinion. If you write something, there's an angle to it. There's a slant. It's how you start. The first line you write means you're coming at it from a certain point of view, I guess. We always did our very best. Sure. And you did great. Lots of people say, I don't believe it. You guys are just manipulating. You were just manipulating. I love that. I didn't have time to manipulate. Yeah, that's right. You ended your long 30-year career at CTV. Why radio? Why did you decide to go to 630 Ched? It was, you know, and keep in mind, it wasn't my choice to leave CTV. That was, that was the whole, as we talk about, cash thing. But whatever, here's a check, get out. So that was okay. But I had taken an auctioneering course. I thought, well, now I'm going to go into either public speaking or just do more emceeing and auctioneering and all that kind of stuff. And then COVID hit. So that was 2019 where I got to let go, COVID hit in March. Yeah. So by the time I got my auctioneering certificate, so that whole idea went out the window. And then the job came up at 630 Ched. And I went, well, you know what? I had even talked to Ched years earlier, maybe going in that direction. But I stayed in TV instead. So it just ended up being a natural progression. Okay. And I grew up with 630 Ched. So the fact that I was going to be listening on it. If you lived in Edmonton, Absolutely. And you were any kind of, as soon as you hit your teen years, you were in the 630 Ched. That was the station, without a doubt. And obviously it's different than the Rock and Roll station is. Yeah, for sure. But no, that was the station to listen to for sure. So, okay. And then I got to do it differently, right? I got to broadcast differently. Right. And opinion could come out in conversation and chatting. So I thought that was just a great way to sort of wrap up the career of doing it that way. So the auctioneering thing, that intrigues me. No, it doesn't. Give us a little bit. No, I don't. Auction off, auction off a coffee in the park right now. I do not dance for grandma or grandpa. Come on, come on. I'll do it if you do it. Yeah, but you can say that about everything. You know what? I have a certain rhythm, but to me, it's about knowing what you're doing. And there is a little bit of that pattern. You're not going to hear me, like I'm at the cattle auction or an estate auction or a jeepers auction. So I'm a bid caller. It's just different. That's what I am. I'm a bid caller. That's what I do. Yeah, I call the bids, so yeah. Basically, I call the bids. You get a little bit of a pattern going through them, but I'm not going to do it. Do you do it? Do you ever? Yeah, I do lots of events. There's lots of charity events that I do. There are auctions. I did one in the summer. I think the live auction itself brought in $80,000. Wow, fantastic. Yeah. That was at Cure Cancer Foundation, Alberta Cancer Foundation, Day of Golf. It's a good auctioneer. 80 grand is a good day. Yeah, it's a very good day. It's fantastic. So yeah, no, I'm not dancing with grandma. Come on, man. I love. Anyway, one day we'll bring you back and you'll do it. See, that's part of the deal too. If you want to see it, you got to buy a ticket to wherever I'm at. Listen, I'd buy the ticket. So just say, whatever money you take, I'll put it on the table right now. I gave you a cough candy, man. Come on, what do you need? And you guys bought me a coffee. And I bought you a coffee. By the way, I love this place. I'm not even just blowing smoke up anybody's dress. This is a cool building and what has been done with it. It's a cool vibe. I could hang out in here for the day. Michael's done an amazing job. If you would have seen this before, like I said, my office was in the corner there, where the plants are in the middle. And so this is why, folks, you got to come see it. There used to be a big atrium there with a little pool in there and a turtle. We had a turtle. That's a story, but that's for another podcast. And then Michael spent a year renovating it and put the roasters in. And yeah, so it's awesome. It's a great place to hang out in Acheson, or not, or from anywhere, really, come and hang out. It's really cool. I like it. So Daryl, this has been fantastic. And we could probably sit here for hours and share stories. We're getting there. We're getting there. Almost. What the heck? We're on the home stretch. Can you believe it? It flies. There's tons of stories. You don't spend 40 years somewhere and not have a whole bunch of stories. So I'll fly back now. So I have moved now to Vancouver Island. I moved to Comox Valley, living in Forty. Beautiful Comox. Beautiful. And some people go, well, do you not like it? Alberta? No, I loved Alberta. And I still love Alberta. But I've lived here for 58 of my 60 years. Right. Well, 58 and a half. Because the only time I was and was when I was working in Prince George. Yeah, yeah. Other than that, I've been here. It's not about going away. It's about trying to find something different. I just want to retire and live life a little differently. Well, and you picked a great spot. You did. Comox is beautiful. And I can always come home. That's right. Yeah. You visit anytime. Exactly. Yeah. Well, in the air, it's an hour 15. Yeah. Yeah. It's a really quick flight. It is. It is. It's right next door. It's awesome. We have one final question for you, Daryl. And this is something we ask all of our guests. What is the best piece of advice you've been given, either personally or professionally, that you carry with you to this day? The best piece of advice I ever got, and I don't remember who it came from, but maybe it just worked from a whole bunch of different people. But if you're doing something, you focus on the job, not on yourself. And if you focus on the job, then everything else will fall into line. Do your job first, everything else will fall into line. Especially in broadcasting, there's lots of people who went into it because they wanted to be on TV, or they went, hi, I want to be on the radio. Now focus on the job, do the job really well, and all that personal success will come along with it. And then the other one was a quote from a series of books, Dune, the movie. There's a little line in there, and I don't remember all of it. It's called The Litany Of Fear, and it says that fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that takes away your logic in essence. So I always wrapped on to that one. Do the job, do the job first, and don't let fear get in the way. That's fantastic. That is great advice. That is fantastic advice. Yeah, I mean, no matter what you're doing in life, where you're at, that's fantastic advice. It's great. Well, Daryl, this has been our absolute pleasure having you. So thank you. My pleasure. For coming on out to beautiful downtown Acheson to do this podcast. Can you book me for next year? Done. Yeah, now, this is fantastic. Thank you so much. My pleasure. Man, and again, like Jennifer said, we could probably go on for hours. And maybe one day we will. We'll just sit here and go on for hours. Well, I'm building a little studio up in upstairs in the house. If you want, I can pop on and we can meet. Yeah, we'll do it up there. That'd be fantastic. Or we could come to Comox. No, I'm just that, you know, I love the highlight. So it's fantastic. We got a couch in the spare room. Well, Jennifer, another great one. It sure was. So it's on the books, I can hardly wait to drop this one. It's going to be exciting. Anything you want to tell us? Well, we just, again, want to thank all of our listeners. We really appreciate your support. And we hope that you continue to share this podcast as we share the story behind the story. That's right. Make sure you tell your friends, tell your enemies, tell everybody about ABA Coffee In The Park podcast. And once again, wherever you get your podcast, or www.Achesonbusiness.com, you can download it off there as well. Thank you, everybody. Thanks for listening to us. And we look forward to seeing you next week. Thanks, everyone.